Don't rely on Alexa to wake you up...

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Wait does the alarm on Alexa rely on the server side? 💀🤡

There’s way too much stuff that relies on internet access. If I’m at home, and my washing machine (which is also at home) wants to tell me when it’s done, why does that need to use the internet?

I try to stick to Zigbee or Z-wave devices where possible, since they’re guaranteed to be local-only. If I need access when I’m away from home, I connect with a VPN to access Home Assistant.

I’ve got a Zigbee power metering plug on our washing machine. Set up an automation for it to notify us when it’s done. Just that sold my wife on HA, she’s asking for other things like this now.

So, the automation is when the power usage suddenly go way down, It is considered done?

Matter is also local—provisioning can be a PITA but once done I’ve been pretty happy with even the cheap Matter WiFi smart bulbs. Home Assistant supports them very well.

Cheap bulbs can be a little buggy, which usually means I need to power cycle some of them now and then.

I mainly use smart switches rather than smart bulbs. Currently I’m using the Inovelli Blue switches which use Zigbee.

there were reports of roombas not getting up because us-east-1 was down, don’t be so surprised

They don’t rely on the server to sound an already scheduled alarm but they do rely on the server to set the next one for a repeating alarm.

Man, if only there were some way to push a schedule to a device, then it could use its own clock to know when to go off

But that technology is too advanced for Amazon

A frustrating number of devices rely on cloud connectivity for astoundingly rudimentary tasks.

I was once at a friend’s house for a game night and it was really cold; everyone was under blankets. I asked to turn up the heat and they said, “The internet is down, so the heat doesn’t work.” 🤯

ugh I hate this. I have two absolutes when it comes to what makes a good smart device. First, it has to be able to be controlled via a local network, be it wifi, zigbee, z-wave, bluetooth, etc. There is no reason why my communication needs to leave my network when both the sender and receiver are in the same network. Second, it must work as a dumb device. If my LAN goes down or access is otherwise impeded I don’t want it to be a brick.

A house that needs the internet to function is not a “smart home”, it’s a “dependent home”.

I am confused about who doesn’t use their cell phone alarm to wake up.

Not using my phone, but a dedicated alarm clock on my nightstand. Mainly because I can see the time and what alarm preset is active at a glance.

I have home assistant(no internet needed) turn in the light from off to dim to bright over 5 mins. Such a nicer way to wake up than an alarm.

Me too, it’s so much more.natural way to wake up… but it’s still tied to the alarm time of my phone (which also fades in slowly)

How do you do that?

Install the HA Companion app on your phone (I use the “minimal” one.from FDroid), and enable the Alarm Sensor - that provides the next alarm time (so, be careful if you have different alarms throughout the day!)

Then, I use that time to trigger the lights to start ramping up about 30mins beforehand.

Also… be careful to check if you’re at home… took me a while to realise the lights were coming on whilst we were away.

Oh, and I use Simple Alarm Clock - also from FDroid - because it fades in the alarm sound.

Not sure why you’re confused, but alarm clocks still exist too 😉

Sometimes if I want to take a short nap, it’s way easier to ask alexa or google to wake me up in 30mins, than set up an alarm.

There have been a few times my phone has had an update and didn’t load in, thus not triggering the alarm. I still use my phone, but I have a backup ‘dumb alarm’

Oh, I forgot that some use Alexa as an alarm clock

At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, I had a somewhat similar scenario today, but totally opposite results …

I rely on my Apple Watch as an alarm: the tapping always wakes me without being loud or obtrusive.

However I forgot to charge my watch, brought the cable to work, forgot to charge it at work, and forgot to bring the charging cable home. Point is, my watch battery is dead, so how did I get up on time this morning?
1. Apple integration for the win! My iPhone automatically took over the alarm. It was loud and obnoxious, but worked
2. My music came on. While I set the schedule through the SONOS app, I’m pretty sure it runs locally. While that relies on streaming music, I have in the past awakened to a shriek as a backup for when streaming doesn’t work

So, vendors that “just work”, devices with intelligent failure, multiple independent sources, local control.

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I guess Ubisoft is down too. Got my dinner and video essay ready to grind some trackmania, but alas…

Onlyfans is also affected

That’s the wake-up call; we need a fedi alternative!

Pleasure or Joy Vine

So like PleasureVine or JoyVine

Fediverse priority #1: Be able to talk to a paid actor pretending to be a model*
Priority #2: Spend money to see the nudes they send in DMs

*for major creators, I’m sure many minor/independent ones are genuine

Sex workers already exist on fedi and a lot of them are genuine.

Nice! I have seen some people who make and sell content on Mastodon— I appreciate those who do that, imo they are able to help fill a hole or just benefit the lives of people who are seeking that content or services/interactions. I hope they’re able to do it safely, seeing as how they probably have to move off-platform for many things, including payment… and with how payment processors treat any adult related transactions…

Unfortunately, that also means that there’s probably not a direct fedi alternative for OF— in my experience (more info below) and from my research, it’s pretty much the default for large creators to rely on paid actors impersonating them for messaging and interacting. Also OF takes care of the payment details, which idk of any fedi platforms doing.

Anecdote: I got lured into an OF a while ago on a local meetup/dating/rp discord servers. I thought I was smarter than that, but weeks of talking and trusting someone, them slowly eroding boundaries and using emotional manipulation… it’s really powerful, unfortunately.

Anyways that OF page was 100% designed to milk people. A “$3 first month” followed by a recurring “$45” regular price if you don’t cancel should’ve been a red flag. And only softcore posts once you subscribe, but as you talk to the actor in messages, they send more intimate images, but with a paywall. They wouldn’t talk to me anymore if I didn’t pay. It starts at $10, but the next was $30. That’s when I refused. It hurt though, I felt like I knew the person. The whole time they’re pushing this “if you don’t buy it you don’t love me, you don’t want to support me, omg I need grocery money” idea.

I know not all creators use it for that. But the platform certainly enables it with its design and features. I just think a massive portion of the adult industry is founded on exploitation, unfortunately.

Just be a server admin and therefore see every local users DMs!

Signal is down too.

Works (again?) for me.

Confirmed. Should be back up now

It seems odd that it’s all on one aws server cluster. Wouldn’t they all automatically activate their backup server on another instance?

cross-region failovers are a thing, but they’re expensive to maintain so not everyone does it. I am kinda surprised one region failure had this much impact though

it’s us-east-1 that’s down, which is the one region with all the AWS services that aren’t easy to replicate, like DynamoDB, a major database service used by so so many companies out there. Its an all eggs in one basket kind of scenario. If it was any other region, we’d be fine.

If your alarm clock needs an internet connection then you need an old alarm clock.

I feel like the internet should probably be hosted in as many different servers and physical locations as possible. It seems alarming that these things happen as often as they do

It was only the one AWS region that went down, us-east-1. Unfortunately that’s the big kahuna. But they’ve got regions and availability zones around the globe. The services that went down due to the outage need to get some cross-region redundancy happening, but that’s the kind of thing that’s never a priority until the moment you need it.

Even the places that did have redundancy - didn’t have actually tested failovers.

Source: working at a place hosted in multiple locations. Didn’t mean shit. Somebody, if not many somebody’s, is definitely getting fired when the smoke clears.

I like how Fortnite is part of this.

If fortnite goes down, I laugh.

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