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Hyundai Reportedly Demanding ‘Tens of Thousands’ of Boston Dynamics Robots ASAP
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teftWhy would hyundai of all companies want to go all in on human form robots? They should know as car manufacturers that robots don’t need to be humanoid to work well. A made to tailor robot is almost always the better solution. Need a robot to do your dishes? It’s called a dishwasher. Need a robot to mow your lawn? It’s called an automated lawnmower. What niche does a humanoid robot slot into that you can’t do with some system purpose designed for your needs?
Hyundai is the owner of Boston Dynamics. They want them to build more robots for sale, they don’t need the robots, only the profit.
MedicsOfAnarchyAsimov addressed this in one of his robot novels. Need your lawn mowed? If you already have a mower, your humanoid robot can use it. Dishes? It can stand at the sink and do them. Drive you somewhere? It fits in your car and can use the controls designed for humans. And if the robot breaks down, a human can take over.
Basically, instead of one robot per task, have one robot to do all the tasks using tools designed for humans.
But you’re right, if the robot is only going to do one thing like work on an assembly line for cars, a custom single-task design makes sense.
For those who haven’t read the article: Hyundai is the owner of Boston Dynamics since 2021. Hyundai wants Boston Dynamics to build more robots for sale, not for them:
The CES presentation promised the capability to make 30,000 in one year, and it sounds like that’s what Hyundai wants to see as soon as possible. Boston Dynamics is reportedly making four Atlas robots per month as it figures out how to ramp up large-scale manufacturing.
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Perhaps China has the right idea. AI cannot replace human jobs. Or perhaps government could make Basic income a perpetual reality?
UBI in America? They won’t even budge on universal health care.
What will they do when 40% of the population can no longer afford to feed themselves and are rioting on a scale never seen in American history?
Build more camps
That’s what they are building the military robots for.
If 40% of the population aren’t useful any more, and they have the means to stop it, all they need is an excuse to do it.
Tell them trans kids are shitting in litter boxes
There’s a short story called Manna about this very concept.
Tldr: America goes with the cheapest possible option that isn’t outright murder, have the robots build a big concentration camp for the poors (ie everyone who didn’t have enough to buy their own robots) and keep them out of sight. Technically it’s a sort of universal social care, just not the kind you’d want.
They’ll tell them to eat cake
Imagine UBI and allowing robots and AI for the mundane tasks that are dangerous or boring. The jobs no one wants to work.
Pipe dream. The ownership class will never stop exploiting labor willingly.
The only thing replacing human jobs with machines does is devalue human labor and make us more desperate. At some point, enough people will have nothing left to lose.
I literally do not understand the people that can look at our reality, our history, and the extreme greed that is pervasive in our society and still think “automation will allow for UBI!” It’s literally redistribution of wealth from the same greedy people that fight against any kind of taxes
Automation simply means more profit for the ownership class. If we can’t find work, we just die. They have absolutely no issues with that fact. :/
That doesn’t make UBI a bad idea. It makes allowing the ownership class to continue to exist a bad idea.
100%
I don’t think UBI is a bad idea. I think as you said, allowing the ownership class to exist as it currently does is the bad idea for sure.
It’s an accelerator. At some point even the wealthiest must be affected. If humanoid robots become e a practical means of automation, suddenly there will be a lot of desperate people. At some point UBI might be the cheap solution for the wealthy
They love slaves. They want to bring back slavery and serfdom. Simple as that.
Why have human slaves or serfs if robots do everything a human does with fewer mistakes, and no need for sleep or recreation?
Because you can’t torture a robot, you can’t make a robot cry, you can’t crush a robot’s spirit, you can’t break a robot’s will, you can’t rape a robot.
Robots are expensive, require frequent maintenance by specialists, and there aren’t even any robots close to humans in durability and length of years active. They also can’t problem solve anything like humans can.
Meatbags are expensive and require frequent maintenance by specialists as well… theres a reason why sick leave and vacations are a thing.
And i’ve been surprised by Claude. It’s not there yet, but its getting better at problem solving. I’m pretty anti-AI, but I can see it getting better and applied to things robots do on the daily while people still do the development and solutioneering and arts and such.
my question is, right now when we have value we have to fight tooth and nail for every spec of capital we get… Once they don’t need us, why would they give us anything? Its a lie to keep us quiet while we lock the doors and turn off the lights.
Thousands of people sitting around with nothing to do is dangerous.
Evening the playing field? Yeah, that’s what dictators want.
We need hundreds of killer robots, STAT!
We need them for… Agriculture.
i.e. synchronized dancing is not actually factory labor.
Presumably with their chequebooks open
Their production rate is still 4 per month. They did promise large production capacity this year.
Boston Dynamics Robots? As in Mister Handy? Protectron? Not the Robobrains?!?