Just for knowledge purposes for others (good joke) -
Hindu-Arabic numerals. Arabic numerals is the Eurocentric nomenclature.
Both Fibonacci and Al-Khwarizmi cited mathematicians and philosophers from the subcontinent in their works but somehow this got lost in Western historiography until more recently.
For those interested - Al Khwarizimi wrote Kitāb al-Hisāb al-Hind (The Book of Indian Calculation) around 825 CE. Fibonacci came across the method 400 years later while in North Africa and wrote Liber Abaci (Book of Calculation) in 1202 referring to the number system as the Modus Indorum (method of the Indians).
How the original source got lost along the way is hard to say but some degree of colonial revisionist history likely had a role to play.
Prolly depends on where they are from, I’m from SoCal and was convinced that New York was a city state until I was like 11. I could see other people having the same thought for even longer if they aren’t told explicitly like how my history and geography classes did, looking at you Utah and your idiotic claim that you guys colonized San Bernardino, you cunts.
It’s not entirely wrong to think of nyc that way. It’s not strictly true, but practically the city dictates much of the state’s politics. It’s similar with Chicago and Illinois.
Legitimately there is a problem with stupidity on Lemmy. I don’t know if it’s because the average user is younger than other sites or what, but I have seen the absolute dumbest, most blatantly wrong shit get upvoted all over the place and there are a number of people who will get into arguments over obvious misreadings of articles.
edit: can the downvoter please name the DSA candidate in the 2026 NY gubernatorial election, it should be pretty easy to find since I linked the article if they exist
You are correct and I was misinformed, but not by much.
Andrew Delgados running mate India Walton is a DSA member who Mamdani supported earlier. And the DSA is mostly supporting Delgado over Hochul, which has garnered a lot of DSA criticism for Mamdani backing Hochul.
Anyone who expects a system based on collaboration and compromise to bend 100% to their will was a fucking miserable entitled jackass to play with as kids.
Agreed but the top comment of this reply chain is so disingenuous. It’s like someone posting “Hey guys, its my birthday!”, then they pop in to be contrarian and say “don’t forget you are going to die someday.”
I don’t get why they left a comment like this. Are they upset Mamdani won? If they actually like Mamdani they could have said “I hope the American people continue to support people like Mamdani if or when it comes out that they aren’t some perfect superhero, and are just human like all of us”.
Specifically the comment focuses on the left and attacks them as being non-compromising, and acts like this is a fact, when the left has shown its self to be quite compromising time and time again.
Remember its not left vs right, but top vs bottom and the only attacks done should be on the top. Anything else is divisive and helps the billionaires stay in power.
the politically correct thing is very often not the morally correct thing and it sucks. it’s the reason i am not in politics and also not in prison (i think i would probably set something on fire)
Ok we do have to compromise, but the compromises are what got us into this mess in the first place. Like you can’t compromise with capitalism because the compromise was either genocide really fast or slower genocide. Sometimes the compromise will get you nowhere.
Ok well let’s take healthcare for example. If you compromise with capitalism, you can’t eliminate insurance companies. Even tho socialized medicine has proven to be a better model for decades, compromise with capitalism got us Obamacare which is technically better than the previous model but it didn’t make anything cheaper and it was prone to subsequent administrations gutting it.
Or compromising with the military industrial complex, means we still build weapons and fight wars and fund genocides. What exactly can the compromise be?
You can go through multiple industries and you’ll find that as soon as you say “someone still needs to profit” then the game is over. Whatever you were trying to fix suddenly becomes secondary to profit.
Thats a nice stat to start the term off, is there are policy responsible for this? Low crime is super important for increased public transport usage. In my city we are currently dealing with high violent crime on public transport and its horrible.
“safest January on record” implies that the stats are being compared to the same time period of different years, no? Was this January that much colder than average?
The coldest January since the teens, and this kind of crime always decreases when it’s freezing out. The real measurement is how many crime free days in a row did nyc have?
That makes sense, I was imagining the general ‘feel good’ nature of a charismatic and energetic candidate might have an effect on the public mood, police priorities, and general alertness.
Day to day policing is incredibly far removed from the mayor. There’s multiple career politicians and bureaucrats that would delay any real progress for months.
Tbh I’d expect low crime rates with Sharia law. It’s notoriously pretty harsh with punishments, like cutting off the hands of thieves or whippings for various crimes. I like Mamdani, but I don’t really see how the two ideas are connected to each other
Punitive criminal systems are notoriously bad at reducing crime, actually.
Honestly, I had expected that it was a minor improvement (and it was - something like three fewer murders), and insofar as I would have seriously credited Mamdani at all, I would’ve attributed it to the general positive mood after Mamdani’s victory - he certainly is very charismatic and active in the community, and such things do have an effect in the public mood and awareness.
However, someone else pointed out this was, apparently, the coldest January in the past decade, so that’s the more likely culprit.
The link you’re missing is that Sharia Law is a brown people thing and brown people are all aggressive and murderous and hate the US and hate freedom and I can’t keep up this satire any longer, Jesus fucking Christ, what has this world come to
Idk why, but he gives me Harvey Dent vibes. Like someday, he’ll become unhinged and will start doing something bad, become real life two-face. Probably because he’s trying to fix everything but the system isn’t letting him.
“Shooting incidents declined in January by 20% (40 vs. 50) and shooting victims declined by 30.9% (47 vs. 68).
Murders plummeted by a staggering 60% (12 vs. 30), marking the fewest for January in recorded city history. Murder declined in every single borough.
Tisch credited an enhanced police presence through the department’s Winter Violence Reduction Plan, launched last month, for the decrease in shootings.
As part of the cold-weather anti-violence plan, the department deployed up to 1,800 uniformed officers to nightly foot posts across 64 zones in 33 precincts, public housing, and the subway system.
Major crime is down around 36%, Tisch said, since the program started.”
So the answer is more police after all. Where’s the ‘abolish police’ crowd now?
Was that what “abolish police” crowd was advocating? To get the police out of squad cars and put them on the streets instead? Wow,
their slogans are really confusing…
But seriously, the left (be it “abolish police” or “defund police” crowds) was advocating for less police. Claiming otherwise is simply trying to rewrite history.
Money is fungible, right? Let’s say we have a limited budget. We have to decide how to spend it. In order to fund one thing we must defund another (or increase the budget, aka increase taxes, which isn’t popular).
OK, so let’s say we find there’s ways to decrease crime that are more effective than police. We should want to fund that, correct? We have to find a way to pay for it now. We need to take money from one service to fund this other service. Since it’s doing the same job as police, but with a better effect/cost, we should probably consider defining police to pay for this, right?
It turns out, we do have the data to show these services do exist and are more cost-effective than police. What should we do?
The “abolish police” crowd you’re talking about were never asking for no policing. They were asking for a change in how it’s done. In my opinion, ideally, it would be abolishing the police as it exists today, and implementing community policing in some form. This seems to be a step towards that at least, but one important compenent is that the police should have to be a part of the community being policed. If they’re outsiders, like they frequently are today, they have no stake in the community.
Anyway, obviously we still need some kind of policing. The shit you’re told is a lie though. People wanted the police system we have today gone and replaced with more effective alternatives. Showing that changing how policing works having a positive effect only proves the point.
However, this doesn’t prove anything else. For all we know, from this information, getting rid of police entirely could have a beneficial effect. The data here doesn’t give us any information on that, so even the most extreme “no policing” stance that you’re strawmaning isn’t disproven here. We don’t have information to make an inference. It just makes you look stupid to claim this proves more policing is good. I can show you data where that alone has been bad, but obviously that wouldn’t prove that sometimes more policing can be good, and I wouldn’t make that claim because I’m not an idiot.
First of all, it was defund not abolish. The point was to reduce the workload of the police to just dealing with criminal activity and not have them dealing with stuff better suited to others like medical professionals or counselors.
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If no crime was ever committed then what would Spiderman be doing all day??
Do you want Spiderman to go unemployed????
What would spider-man do in a crime free world? Powerline technician? The guy who changes bulbs at the top of skyscrapers?
Teaching college, probably
Math and statistics are clearly conspiring with him to hide the truth. Why else would they use Arabic numerals?
Science is woke and therefore to be abandoned.
funny that arabs use Indian numerals and the rest of the world uses Arab ones.
Man, it was so sad how many people took that seriously.
Not the Arabic numerals! How dare they teach those in school. Back in my day we just had to learn the 1 2 3’s.
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Just for knowledge purposes for others (good joke) -
Hindu-Arabic numerals. Arabic numerals is the Eurocentric nomenclature.
Both Fibonacci and Al-Khwarizmi cited mathematicians and philosophers from the subcontinent in their works but somehow this got lost in Western historiography until more recently.
For those interested - Al Khwarizimi wrote Kitāb al-Hisāb al-Hind (The Book of Indian Calculation) around 825 CE. Fibonacci came across the method 400 years later while in North Africa and wrote Liber Abaci (Book of Calculation) in 1202 referring to the number system as the Modus Indorum (method of the Indians).
How the original source got lost along the way is hard to say but some degree of colonial revisionist history likely had a role to play.
Reality has a well known liberal bias.
That’s why conservatives avoid it at all costs.
Al Gebra is a terrorist.
Shakira law. They got mixed up.
https://youtu.be/jC-CcWMBh5Y
So what I’m getting from this is that Sharia Law works? The Christian Nationalists are gonna be so upset.
Didn’t all the far right fascists said they would leave New York if he is elected? Might explain the low crime.
It was also a ridiculously cold January, which always suppresses crime. Criminals don’t like to go out in the cold.
To be fair to the criminals, neither do I
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Already happening. He has a good working relationship with governor Hochul and endorses her above a DSA candidate.
But she put out her neck for him and made things possible. If he did not reciprocate nobody in Albany would cooperate with him any more.
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Prolly depends on where they are from, I’m from SoCal and was convinced that New York was a city state until I was like 11. I could see other people having the same thought for even longer if they aren’t told explicitly like how my history and geography classes did, looking at you Utah and your idiotic claim that you guys colonized San Bernardino, you cunts.
It’s not entirely wrong to think of nyc that way. It’s not strictly true, but practically the city dictates much of the state’s politics. It’s similar with Chicago and Illinois.
I’m Canadian, so I didn’t learn anything about new York at all.
Legitimately there is a problem with stupidity on Lemmy. I don’t know if it’s because the average user is younger than other sites or what, but I have seen the absolute dumbest, most blatantly wrong shit get upvoted all over the place and there are a number of people who will get into arguments over obvious misreadings of articles.
There’s no DSA candidate in the primary. Hochul was running against another centrist (who has since withdrawn due to no chance of winning).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_New_York_gubernatorial_election
edit: can the downvoter please name the DSA candidate in the 2026 NY gubernatorial election, it should be pretty easy to find since I linked the article if they exist
You are correct and I was misinformed, but not by much.
Andrew Delgados running mate India Walton is a DSA member who Mamdani supported earlier. And the DSA is mostly supporting Delgado over Hochul, which has garnered a lot of DSA criticism for Mamdani backing Hochul.
https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2026/02/socialists-not-thrilled-mamdanis-guv-endorsement-even-zohran-gets-it-wrong-sometimes/411228/
https://www.leftvoice.org/the-problem-with-municipal-socialism-a-response-to-liza-featherstone/
Anybody who expects a100% perfect politician is a fool
Anyone who expects a system based on collaboration and compromise to bend 100% to their will was a fucking miserable entitled jackass to play with as kids.
Right. More than 0% would be nice, though.
Agreed but the top comment of this reply chain is so disingenuous. It’s like someone posting “Hey guys, its my birthday!”, then they pop in to be contrarian and say “don’t forget you are going to die someday.”
I don’t get why they left a comment like this. Are they upset Mamdani won? If they actually like Mamdani they could have said “I hope the American people continue to support people like Mamdani if or when it comes out that they aren’t some perfect superhero, and are just human like all of us”.
Specifically the comment focuses on the left and attacks them as being non-compromising, and acts like this is a fact, when the left has shown its self to be quite compromising time and time again.
Remember its not left vs right, but top vs bottom and the only attacks done should be on the top. Anything else is divisive and helps the billionaires stay in power.
"The Left needs to fall in love; The Right simply falls in line."
the politically correct thing is very often not the morally correct thing and it sucks. it’s the reason i am not in politics and also not in prison (i think i would probably set something on fire)
Ok we do have to compromise, but the compromises are what got us into this mess in the first place. Like you can’t compromise with capitalism because the compromise was either genocide really fast or slower genocide. Sometimes the compromise will get you nowhere.
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Ok well let’s take healthcare for example. If you compromise with capitalism, you can’t eliminate insurance companies. Even tho socialized medicine has proven to be a better model for decades, compromise with capitalism got us Obamacare which is technically better than the previous model but it didn’t make anything cheaper and it was prone to subsequent administrations gutting it.
Or compromising with the military industrial complex, means we still build weapons and fight wars and fund genocides. What exactly can the compromise be?
You can go through multiple industries and you’ll find that as soon as you say “someone still needs to profit” then the game is over. Whatever you were trying to fix suddenly becomes secondary to profit.
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Hey man you can try to compromise withthis system your whole life, it’s not going to get better.
Once you realize that, the next conclusion is obvious.
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Thats a nice stat to start the term off, is there are policy responsible for this? Low crime is super important for increased public transport usage. In my city we are currently dealing with high violent crime on public transport and its horrible.
Probably just a result of the snow. No way any policies got implemented that fast.
This is almost entirely due to the fact that January was frigid. It’s pretty well documented that cold temperatures reduce crime.
“safest January on record” implies that the stats are being compared to the same time period of different years, no? Was this January that much colder than average?
This was the coldest January in about a decade.
Well, that’ll do it. Thanks, wasn’t sure
I’ve gotta be cozy when I’m breaking laws, I’m a comfort kind of guy.
The coldest January since the teens, and this kind of crime always decreases when it’s freezing out. The real measurement is how many crime free days in a row did nyc have?
That makes sense, I was imagining the general ‘feel good’ nature of a charismatic and energetic candidate might have an effect on the public mood, police priorities, and general alertness.
Day to day policing is incredibly far removed from the mayor. There’s multiple career politicians and bureaucrats that would delay any real progress for months.
Wild that Mamdani is doing so much to separate himself from the smooth-talking Obamas of the world.
LOVE IT
Woke sharia putting in the work.
Looks like that Sharia Law is already paying dividends.
You mean to tell me the xenophobic fear mongering wasn’t based in reality? Unheard of. Next you’ll tell me the TSA doesn’t actually stop terrorists.
Tbh I’d expect low crime rates with Sharia law. It’s notoriously pretty harsh with punishments, like cutting off the hands of thieves or whippings for various crimes. I like Mamdani, but I don’t really see how the two ideas are connected to each other
Punitive criminal systems are notoriously bad at reducing crime, actually.
Honestly, I had expected that it was a minor improvement (and it was - something like three fewer murders), and insofar as I would have seriously credited Mamdani at all, I would’ve attributed it to the general positive mood after Mamdani’s victory - he certainly is very charismatic and active in the community, and such things do have an effect in the public mood and awareness.
However, someone else pointed out this was, apparently, the coldest January in the past decade, so that’s the more likely culprit.
The link you’re missing is that Sharia Law is a brown people thing and brown people are all aggressive and murderous and hate the US and hate freedom and I can’t keep up this satire any longer, Jesus fucking Christ, what has this world come to
A lot of people geniuenly think like that. Not even old, a ton of highschoolers just spread those ideas around because it’s “dark humour.”
I don’t like living in south.
Any statistics that back it up? I think making people unhappy and promoting casual violence can lead to bad things
It’s more just pointing out that the two thoughts are completely unrelated to each other. It’s a non-sequitur
Idk why, but he gives me Harvey Dent vibes. Like someday, he’ll become unhinged and will start doing something bad, become real life two-face. Probably because he’s trying to fix everything but the system isn’t letting him.
“Shooting incidents declined in January by 20% (40 vs. 50) and shooting victims declined by 30.9% (47 vs. 68).
Murders plummeted by a staggering 60% (12 vs. 30), marking the fewest for January in recorded city history. Murder declined in every single borough.
Tisch credited an enhanced police presence through the department’s Winter Violence Reduction Plan, launched last month, for the decrease in shootings.
As part of the cold-weather anti-violence plan, the department deployed up to 1,800 uniformed officers to nightly foot posts across 64 zones in 33 precincts, public housing, and the subway system.
Major crime is down around 36%, Tisch said, since the program started.”
So the answer is more police after all. Where’s the ‘abolish police’ crowd now?
It looks more like “police can’t just sit in squad cars all day looking for people to harass” which is a better use of resources.
Was that what “abolish police” crowd was advocating? To get the police out of squad cars and put them on the streets instead? Wow, their slogans are really confusing…
But seriously, the left (be it “abolish police” or “defund police” crowds) was advocating for less police. Claiming otherwise is simply trying to rewrite history.
https://x.com/RepAOC/status/1206993080156602371
Money is fungible, right? Let’s say we have a limited budget. We have to decide how to spend it. In order to fund one thing we must defund another (or increase the budget, aka increase taxes, which isn’t popular).
OK, so let’s say we find there’s ways to decrease crime that are more effective than police. We should want to fund that, correct? We have to find a way to pay for it now. We need to take money from one service to fund this other service. Since it’s doing the same job as police, but with a better effect/cost, we should probably consider defining police to pay for this, right?
It turns out, we do have the data to show these services do exist and are more cost-effective than police. What should we do?
The “abolish police” crowd you’re talking about were never asking for no policing. They were asking for a change in how it’s done. In my opinion, ideally, it would be abolishing the police as it exists today, and implementing community policing in some form. This seems to be a step towards that at least, but one important compenent is that the police should have to be a part of the community being policed. If they’re outsiders, like they frequently are today, they have no stake in the community.
Anyway, obviously we still need some kind of policing. The shit you’re told is a lie though. People wanted the police system we have today gone and replaced with more effective alternatives. Showing that changing how policing works having a positive effect only proves the point.
However, this doesn’t prove anything else. For all we know, from this information, getting rid of police entirely could have a beneficial effect. The data here doesn’t give us any information on that, so even the most extreme “no policing” stance that you’re strawmaning isn’t disproven here. We don’t have information to make an inference. It just makes you look stupid to claim this proves more policing is good. I can show you data where that alone has been bad, but obviously that wouldn’t prove that sometimes more policing can be good, and I wouldn’t make that claim because I’m not an idiot.
First of all, it was defund not abolish. The point was to reduce the workload of the police to just dealing with criminal activity and not have them dealing with stuff better suited to others like medical professionals or counselors.
Both stances exist and called for a reduction of police.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1opyOlgSzs8
Minneapolis mayor says “I do not support full abolition of the police” and the crowd tells him to “get the fuck out”.
They ask him about “defunding police” and clarify that they mean “we don’t want no more police”. Hard to put it clearer.
Now, please, tell me again that there was no ‘abolish police’ crowd.
God is indeed the greatest.
What did God do here?
I just translated the post’s title, lol.
Has he upzoned housing for better density yet?
I’d assume the poors largest problem is housing prices in New York, so that would be the first step to actually being a progressive.
I’m still waiting for planning to approve upzoning my foot in your ass.
Approved.