third time's the charm?

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third time's the charm?
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well, not yet, but if you guys keep trying…

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His house isn’t the problem… Expand your horizons

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FR like people who were protesting about DOGE at Tesla dealerships while Elon’s factories just kept whirring away.

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Third time’s the Charmin*

I was led to believe this was a shit post community

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Sailor Mars canonically would love burning down Sam Altman’s house

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Violence and threats of it do not improve society. Don’t normalize this Trumpian lawless behavior.

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You know what does improve society? Open, wanton violence against the lower classes by the wealthy without any repercussions whatsoever. 🙂‍↕️

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Alternatively: what he is doing is causing immense suffering on a societal level and if he stopped doing it many people would live when they would otherwise die.

If the government is unable or unwilling to stop him, or even stop accelerating what he’s doing, then there are other options.

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If the government is unable or unwilling to stop him

Then it’s time to vote in a new government.

Seriously, cool it with the violence-worship

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You should cool it with the voting out fascism worship.

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It’s not worship. It’s a last resort, and these clowns are removing all other viable options.

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Uh-huh. And Trump had no choice but to threaten to bomb Iran “to the stone age”.

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And us threatening him is the same thing? What the fuck are you talking about?

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This is about violence towards the powerful. Not the powerful using violence.

Are you seriously so dim as to confuse those two things with each other??

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Ah yes, like how Hitler was voted out. Why didn’t we think of that?!

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What immense suffering is caused by LLMs?

Are you talking about the water and energy usage? Because that is more so caused by Capitalism than it is by technology.

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The majority of the people in my department were laid off this year and replaced with AI. The AI is doing a terrible job, but it’s virtually free.

Art and music industries are also under intense pressure right now.

LLM’s are being used to replace quality and creativity with slop. It is the ultimate enshittifier for society right now, and the only ones profiting are the wealthy and powerful.

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Yeah, and guns don’t kill people. People kill people!

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not with these piddly, passant efforts, but mass, violence has often accomplished mass civil change for the better!

  • The French Revolution (1789) — Violent overthrow of the monarchy and aristocracy dismantled feudalism and established the principle of popular sovereignty, which reverberated across Europe for a century.

  • The American Revolution (1775–1783) — Armed insurrection against British rule produced one of the first modern constitutional republics.

  • The Haitian Revolution (1791–1804) — The only successful slave revolt in history, producing the first Black republic and striking a massive blow against the Atlantic slave trade.

  • The Glorious Revolution (1688) — Though relatively brief, it involved armed invasion and overthrow of James II, producing constitutional monarchy and the English Bill of Rights.

Viva la Revolution!

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  • Taiping Rebellion (1850–1864): ~30 million deaths, mostly civilian
  • American Civil War (1861–1865): about 620,000 soldiers died; disease accounted for a very large share. Deadliest war in U.S. history. Society has arguably still not recovered.
  • Rwandan genocide / civil war context (1994): ~800,000 killed in roughly 100 days, with extreme neighbor-on-neighbor violence ("they’re eating the cats!")
  • Syrian civil war (2011–present): 300k+ civilian deaths … so far
  • Sudan civil war (2023–present): 13 million refugees, widespread hunger, health-system collapse

What made them catastrophic?

*Violence spread into civilian life. * This meant famine, disease, refugees, and economic ruin kill civilians disproportionately.

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if your argument is that wars are destructive and problematic… eh.. heh.. nobody on earth, ever, will debate that. I don’t know what you’re trying to win there, but.. eh…

anyway, still, even with the lost civil wars among those (a couple?) they were all worth fighting, (most because they were won). civil freedom is always worth more than servile domination under authoritarian totalitarianm. I prefer freedom of speech and worship to being forced to worship Stalin– and, especially, the right to say that openly, without fear of being killed for saying so.

or saying, openly, that I love sucking another man’s cock– which, even in the United States, I was afraid to say so even 25 years ago– and, I’m afraid that I may no longer be able to openly say perhaps 5 years from now

Not sure what your point was, but, ultimately, your post backs up mine: through all the sacrifice, the payoff is worth it!

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That’s easy to say for the living, and for people who have never witnessed this kind of shit first hand.

I’m not the person you’ve been replying to, and I share your concerns, and the belief that we are rapidly running put of options. But I’m not comfortable making such sweeping chipper statements about this stuff when I’ve been privileged enough to never experience actual war.

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so… you’re comfortable assuming things you couldn’t possibly know about people you’ve never met while making a bunch of statements about things you couldn’t possibly know in contexts and places you’ve never been while openly and proudly admitting it?

do you expect a prize or medal for that?

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No, I’m comfortable assuming that someone who had actually been through war wouldn’t be so casual speaking of it.

Also, a bunch of statements? Motherfucker that was my first comment this thread.

If you’re ready for bodies in the streets, more power to you. But get off the chair and get the fuck to it instead of ushering others into the grinder.

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Since when is Scam Altman on Lemmy??

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Remember how healthcare denials went down for months after that United Healthcare executive was killed?

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As far as the trolley problem goes, whoever killed the guy objectively preserved more lives by doing so

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What do you mean “whoever killed the guy?” Everyone knows it was Sam Hyde.

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If we do the violence and the threats to the people fucking us then it absolutely will help society.

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Objectively false, and propaganda to preserve the sate’s monopoly on violence.

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Apart from United Healthcare rescinding a policy to charge for anaesthetic if an operation goes slightly wrong after their CEO was shot?

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Enjoy the moral superiority of your pacifistic ideals while getting teabagged by ICE, I guess

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